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	<title>Comments on: Advice from the Real World: The Usman Group</title>
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		<title>By: Developpeur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Developpeur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A printed portfolio is still valuable in many industries, when you are working with corporations. It is something that can &quot;stay on a table&quot;, available at all times. An all-web approach seriously limits one&#039;s outreach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A printed portfolio is still valuable in many industries, when you are working with corporations. It is something that can &#8220;stay on a table&#8221;, available at all times. An all-web approach seriously limits one&#8217;s outreach.</p>
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		<title>By: Manda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This topic is of great interest to me as well, Mark. I&#039;ve had a few readers write in asking about it, and I&#039;ve noticed that many successful designers have managed to do quite well in their careers without a degree. In fact, this exact subject is going to be the focus of this Friday&#039;s Creative Opera post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This topic is of great interest to me as well, Mark. I&#8217;ve had a few readers write in asking about it, and I&#8217;ve noticed that many successful designers have managed to do quite well in their careers without a degree. In fact, this exact subject is going to be the focus of this Friday&#8217;s Creative Opera post!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark McCorkell</title>
		<link>http://www.creativeopera.com/2010/advice-from-the-real-world-the-usman-group/comment-page-1/#comment-10747</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark McCorkell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing I found interesting there is that they don&#039;t always value a degree as the &quot;gold standard&quot; some assume it to be. I know self-taught illustrators and web developers that have skills that exceed what can be taught in a class room. 

I&#039;ve noticed recently on some web design agency websites that they are starting to recognize that self-taught candidates are also highly employable. Obviously it helps to have that degree, but I found that in the all of the interviews I had... I was always being judged on what I have done, and can prove that I can do.

At the moment I&#039;m actually advising my boss about what we skills we should be looking for in a new web developer (who will be building some of my designs), and I&#039;m pretty much telling him what the main thing is we need to see examples of what they can do. I&#039;m reviewing the CV&#039;s that are being sent to him, and to be honest the last thing I&#039;m looking at is their actual degree. I&#039;m looking to see what they have done, and links to websites!
.-= Mark McCorkell´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/markmccorkell/~3/BSthq1FBFYI/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Logo Design Love: Book Review&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing I found interesting there is that they don&#8217;t always value a degree as the &#8220;gold standard&#8221; some assume it to be. I know self-taught illustrators and web developers that have skills that exceed what can be taught in a class room. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed recently on some web design agency websites that they are starting to recognize that self-taught candidates are also highly employable. Obviously it helps to have that degree, but I found that in the all of the interviews I had&#8230; I was always being judged on what I have done, and can prove that I can do.</p>
<p>At the moment I&#8217;m actually advising my boss about what we skills we should be looking for in a new web developer (who will be building some of my designs), and I&#8217;m pretty much telling him what the main thing is we need to see examples of what they can do. I&#8217;m reviewing the CV&#8217;s that are being sent to him, and to be honest the last thing I&#8217;m looking at is their actual degree. I&#8217;m looking to see what they have done, and links to websites!<br />
.-= Mark McCorkell´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/markmccorkell/~3/BSthq1FBFYI/" rel="nofollow">Logo Design Love: Book Review</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Manda</title>
		<link>http://www.creativeopera.com/2010/advice-from-the-real-world-the-usman-group/comment-page-1/#comment-10745</link>
		<dc:creator>Manda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually surprised by that answer, especially coming from a web design company. I was fully ready to hear that printed portfolios are obsolete. But, after seeing her comments, and especially after reading your story, I can really see the benefit of bringing in a printed book. Not only is it a great ice-breaker, but I think it&#039;s extremely important for companies to see the thought process behind your work. Not only will it give them a better idea of the way you work, and if you will or won&#039;t fit into their company, but I&#039;m sure it makes them trust more fully that the work you are showing is really yours. I&#039;ve found that printed portfolios are also extremely useful in determining a potential hire&#039;s presentation skills, and attention to detail. There&#039;s no quicker way to the reject pile during an interview than to show a sloppy portfolio :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually surprised by that answer, especially coming from a web design company. I was fully ready to hear that printed portfolios are obsolete. But, after seeing her comments, and especially after reading your story, I can really see the benefit of bringing in a printed book. Not only is it a great ice-breaker, but I think it&#8217;s extremely important for companies to see the thought process behind your work. Not only will it give them a better idea of the way you work, and if you will or won&#8217;t fit into their company, but I&#8217;m sure it makes them trust more fully that the work you are showing is really yours. I&#8217;ve found that printed portfolios are also extremely useful in determining a potential hire&#8217;s presentation skills, and attention to detail. There&#8217;s no quicker way to the reject pile during an interview than to show a sloppy portfolio <img src='http://www.creativeopera.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark McCorkell</title>
		<link>http://www.creativeopera.com/2010/advice-from-the-real-world-the-usman-group/comment-page-1/#comment-10740</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark McCorkell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m only getting around to reading this one now, Manda. Very interesting indeed though, particularly the part about still wanting to see a printed portfolio. When you have a printed portfolio you do feel like you are better armed going to an interview. 

I remember going to an interview around the time I graduated, and I did have a printed portfolio at that time, but I chose not to bring it with me in favour of the online portfolio... and I felt naked going into the interview room. And what was the first thing she asked me? &quot;Did you bring any work with you?&quot; *heart skipped a beat! 

I got the job though, but it was a looooong interview and got off to a VERY rocky start because I landed in armed with nothing more than a smile and a nice suit!

I&#039;m not sure what the lesson is to be learned here, but thought I would share that anyway for some amusement! :P
.-= Mark McCorkell´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/markmccorkell/~3/BSthq1FBFYI/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Logo Design Love: Book Review&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m only getting around to reading this one now, Manda. Very interesting indeed though, particularly the part about still wanting to see a printed portfolio. When you have a printed portfolio you do feel like you are better armed going to an interview. </p>
<p>I remember going to an interview around the time I graduated, and I did have a printed portfolio at that time, but I chose not to bring it with me in favour of the online portfolio&#8230; and I felt naked going into the interview room. And what was the first thing she asked me? &#8220;Did you bring any work with you?&#8221; *heart skipped a beat! </p>
<p>I got the job though, but it was a looooong interview and got off to a VERY rocky start because I landed in armed with nothing more than a smile and a nice suit!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what the lesson is to be learned here, but thought I would share that anyway for some amusement! <img src='http://www.creativeopera.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
.-= Mark McCorkell´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/markmccorkell/~3/BSthq1FBFYI/" rel="nofollow">Logo Design Love: Book Review</a> =-.</p>
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